Thank you @operaguy for still suporting SASHA.

I know how tempting it is to go for the "new and shiny" when it hits the store shelves.
I've had a look at LaFemme this weekend, and I admit it's quite good (I'll maybe post a detailed critique later, though I think it's not very appropriate for me to critique another figure (a thing I explicitly avoided on any new figure, be it DAWN, PAULINE, ROXY, PE, Elisabeth 2, and now LA FEMME.

That isn't my style. It never was in fact.

I prefer to let people discover themselves the features of SASHA, not shove it down their throats by bashing other figures.

I just sometimes have to point out that "this or that *new;)*" feature is already in SASHA, but that's as far as I'll go, because the creators of that figure have certainly invested at least as much "heart blood" in their figure as I did with SASHA.

SO:
We're all in the same boat called "Poser", and we should help each other instead of blasting us to smithereens.
It only helps the agenda of DZAd "other" company.

Karina


P.S.:
Maybe I'll repost this (less your name) tomorrow at the SM and Rendo forums.
Not sure yet because it's always a good idea to sleep over an idea, or a controversial post.;)
-K-

Don't worry @operaguy,

I wouldn't repost ANY of the pictures posted here (except I have your explicit permission!).
I only thought about reposting MY OWN post at the other forums; but then I've already decided not to.

To what avail?
I couldn't convince anyone anyway, since sides have already been taken and the red lines are drawn in the sand.
So there's nothing I could do except stirring up more useless sh.t.

I am following the threads "over there", and so far it didn't evolve into the usual "new figure bashing" (Sixus1's "Scarlet", anyone?)
But that probably will happen when the "usual trolls" appear.


@Yggdrasil:

I agree completely - variety never is a bad thing.

And it wouldn't be a problem if the figures would follow a common accepted standard of where to find the morphs and dials you need.
Unfortunately, there is no such standard: PE even had the head morphs in the BODY instead of the head (where youl'd expect them to be)!

The problem that "I" (like in "Me, Myself And I") have is that each time I use another figure, I basically have to go hunting for the parameters and dials again because they aren't where I'm used to it.

Examples:

• If you use the original DAZ Victoria4 and want to pose a body part with the dials only, you have to click your way through three nested groups just to get to the rotation dials - on each single of it's ~sixty-some body parts!
• To get to the predecessors of the "Easy Pose" Dials, youl'd have to guess where they are (Hint: "MorphForms")
• Also, all body and face morphs had no logical structure at all, so youl'd have to scroll through endless morph lists to hunt for the ONE dial that you might need.
• Finally, all the morph dials are called differently in other figures. So each time I am looking for a particular morph I always have to go hunting throuogh endless lists of individually named morphs just to find the one that does what I want.

@operaguy:

I tried that pose on "La Femme" (personal modification of the figure I made to work in PP2014, with only some slight drawbacks)

The problem with "LaFemme" (as I see it) is simply that she wasn't made for such an extreme pose (yes, it IS extreme to have the wrists cuffed behind)

OTOH, I'm somewhat into bondage (Psht! Don't tell!)[rolling_eyes], so the pose with the wrists handcuffed behind was a "must" when I devised SASHA's rig.

But then, there's a big difference whether you create weight maps only for the usual "up-down/bend/twist" dials, or you go one step further.
And for sure this wouldn't have been possible without my invention of SASHA's "Collar Control" (patting myself on the back...)

B.t.w. @operaguy:
All those nice shoulder movements you posted are only owed to the "Collar Control"!


OK, enough of my narcicissm (?sp?).:P

Have a good day, and enjoy creating your art!


Karina

Muito obrigado @flaviok!
Comentários como o seu fazem todo o trabalho valer a pena.
Saudações ao Brasil (ou a Portugal?)!

Thank you very much @flaviok!
It's comments like your from happy users that make it all worthwhile.
Greetings to Brazil (or Portugal?)!

Karina

Sorry to say this, and I certainly don't want to rain on LF's parade because Poser desperately needs a new base figure.

But I'm afraid this won't happen with LaFemme.
Well-meant, but in fact they missed the opportunity to create a figure that is easy to pose, intuitive to morph, and they also didn't pick up some of SASHA's features which SASHA's users love.
They could have done so because SASHA is "Public Domain".

Instead they chose not to, and it's just another clumsy, hard to operate figure like all it's predecessors.
(Well at least they "innovated" by NOT nesting the rotation dials three groups deep down in every body part as they were in the original V4).

Sorry for this rant, and maybe I'll delete it tomorrow because it's never a good idea to bash other figures.
However, after spending my time "nine to five" today just to "hide" the KV and making it an optional injection, I'm afraid I'm not really myself any more.

So, sorry for the rant.
But thank you A LOT for still supporting SASHA!

Karina

Thank you for the flowers @Wickerman!

but in fact I'm not aiming at making SASHA a superiour figure over others - all I try is aimed at giving Poser users a figure they can work with and achieve good results.

I really hoped new Poser figures would pick up some of SASHA's features to make the figures more easy to use.
Instead, it's back to field #1, and a figure setup like "in the olden times".

Just a few examples:

You know that you can drag on SASHA's limbs to pose them without pulling the torso out of whack.
LaFemme implemented this on SOME limbs, but in the end it was only half-arsed:

STILL dragging at the hands and feet influences the whole arm or leg, and the "collar" is getting ridiculously distorted if you move the arms far down...
OK, you can sort of fix that by adding more "chain breaks". But WHY was it not done by LF's creators in the first place?? (it's just a few clicks in Poser!)

And why didn't they just copy SASHA's "Collar Control" system that make SASHA's arms so easy and naturally posable?

And where are the "Easy Posing" dials that come with SASHA?
Apart from the "Arms up/down/front/back" I don't see any!

But then of course, if people refuse to have at least a glimpse at SASHA (as some of the LF creators admitted), they can't know of what SASHA is capable of.
Kind of building a new car and ignoring that fuel injection has superseded carburettors...

Albeit they want to launch these as a "pay-for" upgrade like back with V4 and the Morphs++ package (without which V4 was basically unusable).
But that is pure speculation.

Karina