Zitat von Karina

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What became of Phantom3D?

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I do not know. He disappeared from the radar.

Again... - someone at this date of age is getting allegations for advocating child pornography, even though they merely created 3D-children? If they even produced/distributed sexually comprised content involving those, it is only controversial for a select crowd. Therefore, such allegations are wrong and incompetent, while no harm was done to anything and anyone. Artificial designs/productions are to be either appreciated or denied. Promotion and distribution of sensible content, is well a considered task to undertake correctly within suitable areas welcoming it with appreciation.

The following explanation helps to understand it most logically - written by someone else - one of my archived extractions:

Destructive Sensitivity

There’s a certain attitude that scares the shit out of me – let’s call it destructive sensitivity. It’s the philosophy that, if an idea is uncomfortable, it needs to go away. If an image upsets you, or reminds you of a bad experience you had, then not only should you not have to look at it, no one should be allowed to look at it. And if you can’t eradicate it completely, it should at least be buried so deep that a casual viewer would never stumble upon it. This kind of censorship is nothing new, but I feel like it’s becoming more and more common. So, why do I think it’s a problem?

FICTION

An important question we need to ask ourselves first is, what is the purpose of media, and particularly of fiction? Why do we read, why do we look at artwork, why do we watch movies? To only see happy things? As escapism? That’s certainly a valid interpretation, but it’s not the only one.

For the artist or creator, fiction can be a way to communicate the inner self to the outer world, through the use of symbols. It’s a means of expression. What they express might be deep, might be simple, might be beautiful or disgusting, might be for a niche audience or the whole world, but in the end, it is the artist taking pieces of their own experience and creating something new.

For the viewer, fiction is a way to understand things that are outside their experience, and a way to expand their experience safely. Fiction allows us to go places and do things that we can’t or wouldn’t in our own lives, without risk, without physical harm, and without causing harm to others. Fiction can teach us what we fear, what we love, what we’re missing. It can show us how others live, how others see us, how we see ourselves, and we’re free to engage with it as shallowly or as deeply as we want.

But fiction is not equal to reality. Watching Friday the 13th doesn’t make you a murderer, and it doesn’t kill you. Reading Lolita doesn’t make you a pedophile. Writing a story where a character is raped is not the same as committing rape, and reading that story is not the same as being raped. Thought is not crime.

CENSORSHIP

Censorship is a way to force your interpretation of material on others, to reduce or destroy another’s experience by prejudging it as harmful to them. But part of becoming a well-rounded human being is accepting that not everyone has the same sensibilities, and not every experience needs to be positive.

What you find offensive, some might find enjoyable. What you find traumatic, some might see as an exercise in empathy, or a means of catharsis. Sad songs can be beautiful. Horror stories can be fun. When you decide to silence the things you don’t like, you’re cutting off others from that same experience. You’re making decisions for others, and you’re essentially saying that your feelings (and the feelings of people who agree with you) are more valid than anyone else’s. I find this darkly ironic, because the audience that holds these particular sensitivities also tends to be the first to champion acceptance and non-traditional viewpoints, while organizing witch hunts for those they feel disrespect them.

So, why is this important to me? Why does it scare me? Well, as an artist, the complaint of one sensitive viewer can erase my work in an instant. When complaints are made, content is removed first and questions are asked later. Artists are guilty by default, and viewers are treated as victims. No content host wants to be the one to stand up for freedom of expression at the risk of being seen as supporting offensive material. Most alarming of all, this is all seen as totally acceptable, or even justified. When an artist’s work is taken down, I see comments like, “Well, that’s the risk you take when you post stuff like that. Can’t be helped.” Even the people who disagree with censorship just shrug their shoulders.

SENSITIVITY

To those who are sensitive, I’m not trying to say, “just get over it”. Emotional hurt is real, traumatic experiences are real. I would never belittle someone else’s pain. But you have to realize as well that your experience is not the be-all, end-all of the world. Not all content is made with you in mind. It is inevitable, if we want to exist in a world with other people in it, that we’ll be exposed to things we don’t enjoy. The answer is not to destroy or degrade those things, but to try to understand them – and if that fails, at the very least, we can allow them to exist on equal terms. It is that frightening desire to homogenize the world, to eliminate that which we fail to understand or which causes us emotional distress, that can lead to real prejudice, to real violence and real crime. Please understand that allowing content you dislike to exist is not the same as advocating it.

THE ANSWER

What I would love to see is a perspective shift. I want to see a world where responsibility is on the viewer, not the creator or the content host. If you have a problem with something, it’s up to you to not see it, not for the artist to hide it for you, or add unavoidable warnings that prejudge a work. I want a world where, rather than censorship by default, censorship is a conscious choice for those who want it. No work is hidden until a user hides it themselves. Artists are not punished for merely posting content that some find offensive, only for not tagging it correctly. Freedom of expression and variety of content is seen as more important than protecting viewers from fiction, from discomfort, from viewpoints that don’t mesh with their own.

Accept others. Take responsibility for yourself (and only yourself). Understand that not all content is meant for you. Understand that fiction is not crime, and fiction does not equate to real-world harm. That’s all I’m asking.

Another extraction from someone else, which is also logical and full with truth:

Lol, the censored bikini version of the Ellie undress pic I did years ago has recently come under fire by a few people on dA because it is “a sexually suggestive picture of a minor.”

I love that people feel so strongly that physical laws apply to polygons, and yes I know in some places they actually do but it is no less silly. Sexual exploitation of real life minors is a terrible thing. It often does cause deep physical and emotional harm to the minor that affects them for the rest of their lives and the distribution of videos and pictures of it is just as guilty of the same thing as it creates demand.

But 3D models are not real. They’re not an actual person, so no one is being harmed in its making and the same applies to the cause of demand. This is the same old tune that has been sung for years, but that is because it is the facts.

Can I understand if someone may be uncomfortable seeing a video game character in sexual situations because the canon the writers made (which could as just as easily read “18? if they wanted it to… you know… because it’s MADE UP just like the characters themselves) states they’re young? Absolutely. Completely. That’s because your mind has fixated elements of fantasy onto your reality, you can’t help it. But the notion that it means that the people who DO enjoy it means they enjoy actual sexual content involving minors is ridiculous. I for one couldn’t be the least bit interested in men and women younger than about 20 in life. But fantasy is different, and I understand that seems rather unspecific without explaining why, but I honestly can’t… but I think we all understand it. You probably enjoy killing entire small nations worth of people in a game, sometimes in very graphic ways, yet feel faint in real life if you accidently slit your hand and you started bleeding.

I mean for fucks sake, the entire “Teen” genre in popular pornography is based around legal girls who look absurdly young for their age roleplaying a young girl, calling the random cock she’s been paid to suck and fuck that shoot “daddy.” That shit’s fine and people enjoy it, it’s no problem.

Because it isn’t real. It’s made up and everyone knows that.

Yet polygons of a character created from peoples minds who the same minds determined how they looked and how old they are is too real? Need I also mention Marie Rose from DOA5?

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go crawl around in a cardboard box in the middle of the Afghan desert in 1984, knocking fools out with my bionic arm.

Let me add some words to the last author's saying:

The age of digital content starts at 0. As time passes we considered it as aged/older content, even though it does not degrade and is logically a constancy that deserves 0 age, not applicable.

A video made two years ago, is deemed to be 2y old, yet if it features a 3D-girl for example, that 3D-girl can have an imaginary or assigned age for it when compared with a possible real-life human specimen. If the content of that video does not purely involve any personality of another real life person, or does not exploit their privacy in an unauthorised/illegal manner if it contains resemblance or reality-assisted personal data of someone legally permitted to cooperate in its project/development/production, then its content does not deserve to be questionable. When it contains nothing relative to a real-life person, and it is made purely artificial, then the sounds and images it contains, can not predicate age.

But when there is any real-life person's personality directly revealed in it in the form of audio/image, then the age-tagging of the actor is logically correct, and thus must follow laws and not exploit that person in any unauthorised/illegal way, for it to be a clean product.

For example, you can not use a picture of a real-life girl and implement it into a design with an identity revealing form of the person. Also, you can not use a person's surname as a products' tag without authorization or in any other way illegally. And you can not build in captured voice without autorization or in any other way illegally.

Now for the shocking example.
-Let us say, someone produced a 3D-video of a celebrity by using only their name and surname together, and then they distributed it in any way without authoriziation illegaly.
--One scenario is, that nobody with initiative to cause them hefty problems is concered to start a violation process, and the person in question also does not mind. Then it stays grey while it sparkles, but that is a bomb still ticking.
--Alternative relative scenario is, that someone triggered a violation process against them. Let the judge decide, based on these rules, if they choose.
-Another scenario is, someone recreated a person in 3D in great detail, while the person it depicts is no celebrity, and the product is not circulating within areas that concern the person in question - its name and tags are not revealed within it, and its audio has no captured voice from that person, or another person unless authorized and legal.
--It is fine, as long as that video is not identified within the roaming area of that person and those who are knowing them personally.
--It is bad if that person or a lawful relative discovered it and the audience in question is shocked and disagrees of its existence to be allowed.
---Then a judge shall choose reasonably to set a charge on the creater, if at all - unlikely.
----However this may be, the creator was left a scar in their karma, socal life, and mind.

This is early enough to have detailed like that. In the future ahead, someday not too late, we will hardly be able to make distinctions between captures and designs. The digital world is just in its second-dot-five launching phase. The human population on Earth is growning exponentially, resulting in a mass that can never be controlled by illogical unright dubious rules/commands. The other weight will clearly overweight them.

The best we do to help in designing the future, is to act and think purely and truthfully with an open mind - being cooperative, tolerant, caring and friendy. Keeping the balance between maintaining secrets private, and not lying while living a fulfilled lifesytle, is positive as long as we do not lie and do not reveal sensible secrets carelessly in sensitive areas.

Lastly, I add my ender strophe to this composition (this is from a bit further in our future):

Surpassing Reality

Designs, pleasures, games, friendships. About - reality? The short thinking only, don't see it. No, this is far greater than what is out there, in the real world. It is not about recreating! Not, not anymore. It is about surpassing reality! It looks better, it is universal, it is infinte, it's art, it is surprising, it is satisfactory - without compromise! There is no rules in fiction, design, or call it art. Our phantasies shall never be restricted.

As long as we are pure, we shall deserve to act as a god. Creation is life - we play the Gods of Creation! Reality is everything. ... reality ... do you know what that means? ... actually? A dream? ... is also, a part of reality. This is just a virtual reality. You don't know all about it - but you live it. What do you believe, what your mere thoughts - any, or desperate intentions, can deliver through quantum physics and in turn do? These automatically and unconsciously affect the layout of our world, on a matter move pace-of-action in real time.

Karina,

Any update on SR1 for Sasha?

Project E looks fantastic, but I still plan on staying with Sasha for a long time. Thanks to Barzing's new script for copying morphs over to Sasha, I'm slowly converting my old V4 characters.

I really love the Easy Posing dials, it has never been so easy for me to pose my characters and the shoulders and elbows still look natural and smooth the entire time. Love it! Still waiting anxiously for you to do your M4 upgrade someday too!

while Project Evolution looks promising, it takes no love, or lust i have away from our Sasha

Zitat von Wickerman

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Project E looks fantastic, but I still plan on staying with Sasha for a long time. Thanks to Barzing's new script for copying morphs over to Sasha, I'm slowly converting my old V4 characters.

I really love the Easy Posing dials, it has never been so easy for me to pose my characters and the shoulders and elbows still look natural and smooth the entire time. Love it! Still waiting anxiously for you to do your M4 upgrade someday too!

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Seconded on all points!

++1 (sorry fast vote), i play a lot with S16, didn't try PE yet (my bad)

Zitat von Karina

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I'm thinking about making a kind of "SR1 Blog" thread, where I can post what I did change hitherto, and then you can chime in to set my head straight and remind me of things I promised to implement but forgot since then...

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It definitely would be nice to have a dedicated thread to know what is supposed to come with SR1. I am really waiting for SR1 before I fully convert most of my characters to Sasha (I learn from other software, never jump to use ver 1.0, always wait for any fixes and updates in ver1.1 )

I'm sure SR1 will be worth the wait...

sure, sounds like a good idea to me.

the average mentality of American Joe Average is still hard wired in the old pseudo-puritan uber conservative mindset.
Also, what is killing this country (America) and many parts of European can be defined in two sickening words: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
Even if the site owner/manager does not object he/she/they are forced to comply with even one single mindless whiner for fear of the stigma of promoting this or that thought besmirching the reputation and/or revenue stream of their site. Welcome to the new reality!

Zitat von Karina

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@ Wickerman:

Yes, the people who were working on M4WM back then suddenly stopped the project for unknown reasons, and I was disappointed too.
Re. K4: I'm afraid that I must give this a miss - the figure is one of the worst I've ever seen, and it's hopeless to make anything from it that would meet my quality standards.

SASHA has the potential to become a girl (or a boy!) of appprox. 7 years onwards, and it's even finished.
However I decided not to release it at the moment, because of SASHA's "extra body part"
and to avoid allegations of advocating child pornography. Sounds absurd, but that's what Jamminwolf has to endure frequently with his "young" characters for V4.


@ Digitell:

I'm more than happy to welcome another well-respected person from the Poser community here. Good to have you on board, and yes when MISHA needs some test runs I'll gladly include you in the beta test team.


Oh and thank you all for giving SASHA a chance

Karina

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