it has clearly something to do with win10, indeed. : other V4's (2+sasha) in the same scene work fine .. sasha is slow. Sasha alone in a scene works (as good as) fine too.
Now I have done a clean install of win8.1 with all updates available (have the win10 still in backup) and the scenes with multi V4 and Sasha run smooth too.
another tought i made : could it be because the scenes were made and saved on my win8.1 desktop and that i tried to run them on win10 ? (allthough logic would be if all V4"s were affected and not only sasha.).
might have also something to do with my graphics card : Nvidia Quadro K420 1GB GPU (if this one is a bit on the light side then, all figures would be affected). But i'm replacing this one with a NVIDIA GTX550ti 3GBram DDR3 GPU in the next days.
First of all I would like to express my concern about Karina being absent so long.... I sincerely hope the recovery goes well and we will here from him soon ! Wishing all the Best !
The problem :
On my win8.1desktop with 8GB RAM, even complex scenes with multiple V4/M4 and SASHA19 go smooth.
On my win10desktop with 20GB RAM the scenes work fine as well except the morph/pose dials from Sasha19 they are irresponsive and have a delay of 5-10 seconds(windows hourglass) before they jump to a random value which makes it impossible to finedial and dial accurate. (the same goes for selecting/moving bodyparts or the body actor) (again, other V4's in same scene, no problem).
I tested same scenes on both desktops and it is only on the win10 that this problem occurs. So i am most certain it is NOT sasha-related but probably it's got something to do with win10 or the air library (as flashplayer no longer exists) (is there a replacement for flash player btw ? and not having to use the airlibrary ? )
As always, much thanks in advance and any info and tips highly appreciated ! :)
I have created a base sasha in pp2014 with all morphs injected. saved as CR2 as well as PZ3. from those i've made 2 custom characters . (same texture, same base, ... one character works well (all morphs) and the other one is missing morphs again and some morphs like breast up/down/in/out don't work. (in both characters, i notice also differences in chest actor concerning the (breast)morphs) the one has morphs the other hasn't and vice versa.
(besides that, the first one renders ok, the second one has again that glossy plastic look ... )
it can't be crosstalk as i load a new scene, new base sasha and then save the customdialled figure also in CR2 and PZ3
if i take a new scene (even after relaunching poser) both characters load with different morphs vanished and working/not working and render differently.
re-injecting all the morphpacks doesn't have any effect on the nonworking dials, all though missing dials sometimes re-appear (and trhese work)
and another strange thing : my custom characters load as I custom morphdialled them, but sometimes (mostly in headactor) dials are reset to 0.000 (this happens a lot with i13morphs) thus making it impossible to know which ones i've used in case of adjustments i need to make.
it seems all so random and i totally don't see a structure or regularity in what goes wrong or what happens when ...
(i've also read something about poser not really resetting values of morphs and render when a new scene is launched, but that dialvalues etc are being accumulated. as a result, some dials have such high values they don't "recognize" the value anymore and stop working. (my own words of what i read somewhere but i don't have single clue if this is true or what can be done about it)
like i said, this is way over my head to figure out and understand what's happening. :) if anyone sees the wood for the trees, i'll be glad to hear it :) :)
not directly related to Sasha, but anyone any idea on where to get poser servicereleases ? expecially older versions like mine : ppro2014
found out that the "hilarious" popupwindow "poser stopped working.... close application...." which happens often now, can be largely reduced by installing the servicerelease. As i only started with ppro14 a couple of months ago (found it on a (official) non-smithmicrosite at a bottom saleprice) i'm eons of time behind on things. Even though i have a legal copy of poser, i can not find the servicerelease updates anywhere on smithmicro (or elsewhere on other sites)
everything googled in relation to older poser versions goes only to one page : poser12 and there is not a word mentionned about previous versions on that page.
every link i find goes to smithmicro, but they"ve seemed to have closed everything related to older poserversions and everything redirects to the new poser12 nothing can be reached anymore (so it seems to me) except all things poser12
like all else never existed, except poser12. lol
very weird that support for older version is unreachable (unless i'm overlooking things) :)
from my experience, I think it has something to do with creating and rigging of the clothing item. some clothes work perfectly with "copy joint zones from" others don't seem to react at all. (I even have cloth sets from about 10 years old by now and they fit straightaway, with no adaptions needed. while some recent clothing sets can't be fitted at all.)
when conforming, the clothing only copies the morphs they have ... (some have only e.g. breastsize morph then morphs from V4 like, breastnatural, breastdiameter etc are not calculated in when conforming. I guess it is a bit the same with the socks also.
Allthough it seems a simple clothing figure, socks conform seldom straight away.
in the case of your image, I would usually work with xyzscale to match them. (if you morphed your sasha with scalingdials like e.g chest yscale or abdomen yscale. then the clothes conforming does not calculates this in. (and yet, some stocking sets conform perfectly (including shin and thigh)
(allthough i do not now anything about rigging and bonessetup etc .. i do hope this helps a bit.
thank you for replying, Barzing, tried as you said but no result : deselected light multitude in material and did several test renders , trying out the 3 attenuation options i have : constant, inverse linear and inverse square. even tested this method after deleting all lights and creating just 1 spot. no visible changes in render.
But a curious thing i stumbled on by pure coincidence : and a solution (for now) : i opened the runtime/textures and copypasted the V4londontextures to a different folder and renamed them. then i created a .mat file after loading them manually on each bodypart of Sasha. I Don't know how, but it recreated all the nodes as well (screenshot in post above) but it got rid of the overexposure
here's how it looks now in material without the overexposure and it renders ok now. (but to do this for all textures i use would be quite a task :) )
and i have no explanation whatsoever what happened during just relocating and renaming the textures but it worked.
i have found a solution ! it has to do with the injection channels. if you have installed sasha in an external runtime, you need to open the the runtime where you have originally installed MV, V4 etc and their morphpacks. Do this also when you change to a newer poser version like i did pp12 --> pp14 .
Go to the folder ......./runtime/libraries/ !DAZ/ copy this one entirely and paste it in the your Sasha's .../runtime/liabraries folder
open this !DAZ folder and re-initialize all the .bat files like e.g DZcreateExPfilesV4.bat (just click the bat file and a short script will run. that's it ...
if you now reload poser you can use Sasha's malebody, and malebodynoscalemorph to eliminate the perky breasts without shrinking or deforming the nipples :) (Don't know if this is a universal foolproof solution but it worked for me) .
found also that older skins for V4 with no or just a couple nodes render normal with no gloss or overexposure
moving the lights in the scene or decreasing intensity has no effect on the overexposure or plasticglossy look. it only moves the overexposurespot on the body.
overexposure is already showing up in the advanced tab. so he overexposure has something to do with the lights, but than still remains the glossy look. (allthough, same skin, same lights, same advanced tab previewlook in pp12 renders fine)
(when i load a skin from an older character (with no nodes or just a few) in pp14, this doesn't happen and renders normal.)
(perhaps something to do with copyrights or so from the texturecreator; but none of these nodes can be disconnected or deleted in advanced tab)
in poserpro2012 i always had very good renders. skins, colors, shadows all looked natural. (with a bit of postwork here and there :) )
now in poserpro2014 renders with the same setting give way to bright reflections, skins look pale and have plastic shiny glossy look.
e.g. a scene that rendered well in p12, loaded in p14 without changing anything gives this result :
P12 :
P14
the skin is Cosmopolitan london for V4. it is the normal MAT setting. with the SSS setting it's even worse in P14 I also tried turning on and off rendersettings like subsurface scattering, indirect light, raytracing, gamma correction ... nothing gives me the renderresults i had in P12 character (as always :) ) Sasha16 2019ed and for the comparisonrenders : Sasha16 lights : i13 prolightease
if anyone has any solutions on this or how/why this is happening, I would be very grateful !! :)
thank you but tried those also ... chestdepth seems to flatten the chest only and doesn't affect the breasts.
Breastvolume and other morphs like breastlarge/size/diameter (in combination with the full body male and malenoscalemorphs) shrink and crumble the nipples in a most painful way :)
but i need the young male character not for nudescenes. I just want Sasha as a base because she bends way more naturally then good ole V4/M4. And if shirtless in a scene would be needed, there's nothing a little postwork photoshop can't handle :) .
But any solutions are still welcome :)
By the way, is there any news on the male version of Sasha ?
thank you very much ! I think i will give the second option a go :) as renaming seems a lot of work indeed. I might give it a go one day when real life stops interfering with my 3D-time :D :D I'll keep on update here on how things go with the OBJ/morphtarget
Thank you RL Owens, that explains a whole lot ! that is indeed what is happening now I see it as you describe. is there a way to get around this that you know of so that all the morphs show up ? I'm thinking : rename the morphs? create new channels and (re)direct the morphs there? allthough i wouldn't have the slightest clue how to do any of these :)
hello, i wanted to turn V4sasha into a male figure, young male 20-22yr. so the full male setting is a bit too "mature" but none of the morphs seem to be able to get rid of the breastshape. my male figure has always tiny (perky) breasts. is there a way to completely flatten/zero the breasts ? I've tried dozens of combinations with the dials in body, breasts, chest etc but either nipples deform to a shrink or breasts get pointy. nothing i've tried will flatten the breasts to a male shape. perhaps a "no breasts "pz2 injection would be nice :)
First of all i would like to say i love working with Sasha !! I never use any regular V4 anymore and to start learning daz from scratch to use genesis is way too steep :)
with the first Sasha16 i had (have) a weird problem : i made a base figure with all the morphs injected (besides the V4 morphs i added extra morphs like i13's etc ...) no matter if I save as a CR2 or PZ3scene, each time i load this base , some morphdials work, others don't, others have dissapeared.. when i made custom characters i noticed also that different morphs are saved e.g. in the chest actor, one character has a whole list of morphdials like nipple option 1, nipple option 2 etc...) in another character, in the chestactor, these dials aren't there. (allthough both custom figs where created from the same base-sasha.).
so far i worked in poserpro2012
now i work in poserpro 2014 with the new sasha 2O19 edition. (yes for budgetreasons i can't keep up with buying always latest versions of poser :) )
Here i noticed that e.g. i13 boombone or uniquemorphs etc (manual says to use injected morphs from the body actor rather than the head actor) they only appear in headactor and not in body.
also morphs that should go in body/injectionchannels/community don't appear there. in fact ... only 1 morphdial is displayed. in /community. When injecting a second one, the displayed one gets replaced by the second injection.
so I was wondering is there a limit or a maximum number of morphs that can be injected on V4-sasha ? if so, can this limitation be surpassed ?
I'm not at all critcizing your magnificent work with Sasha, Karina, but I just don't understand how this happens and how i can save a (custom)sasha character that keeps all injected morphs (and working).
thank you very much in advance for any tips and help !!!
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THAT IS A GEM !! THANK YOY SO MUCH RLOWENS !!!
