@RLOwens:

No, the bones were not meant for "shaping in any way.
They're just movements (thus the new "ZERO ()()" pose in the tool box).
For actual shaping it is supposed to use the morphs provided in the body's ">>>SHAPE/Glute" parameters group.

As for the extreme bends - well, they are just that.
It's impossible to provide a solution for all extreme cases, as in the pose in your image.

Of course I could add a plethora of JCM morphs to fix that.
But then I would actually need one fix morph for each rotation axis on each leg, and also orchestrated to differentiate whether the thigh is bent sideways while being bent forward, or being bent sideways while being bent back, and then another set to cater for both, but then with a twisted thigh.

Finally all those would have to be orchestrated with the degree of side-side, up-down, and twist angles of the butt cheeks.
And in the end it probably still wouldn't look perfect because a morph works linear, while bone rotations - well - "rotate" the geometry.

Generally it would be doable.
But the penalty of added morphs and dependencies would make the figure more "heavy, MB-wise, and I wonder if that is worth it for just a simple butt jiggle.
And I already imagine the complaints of people about pokethroughs...

However:
I thank you VERY much for your thorough testing of SR1, and if you have more issues, don't hesitate to post them!


The double entry of "True Age and Height" stems from a pose in the "Karina's TOOLBOX":
"395 Collapse Groups" which I forgot to update. *1
I'll fix that - thank you!

K


FOOTNOTE *1:
The advantage, but likewise problem with this function is:
"I" prefer neat, collapsed parameter groups when I save a new character so I won't have to scroll through endless expanded lists of parameters to find the one I need.
The problem is that Poser doesn't understand that this "pose" is just a rearrangement of groups.
Instead it creates any groups which are not yet in the figure A SECOND TIME.
One more Poser annoyance...

@samh:

Lyrras child morphs? Never heard of them.
Could you hint me on where I can possibly find them?
When I googled all I could find was "Genesis" stuff.

Thank you!

K

Ah, thank you!

I had something similar some years ago in an earlier version of SASHA, called "Body Shape By Age".
It worked in a similar way I guess, only that you could input the age between 7 and 20 directly.
I decided to take it out because of possible allegations of advocating child porn.

For the same reason the KV is hidden automatically as soon as you set the "Height by AGE" dial to anything below 18 yo.
Of course inquiring minds can circumvent this, but then at least it's not MY fault

K

You're welcome @RLOwens!

I'm happy with every bit of help I can get to make SASHA some tads better.
So keep commenting please!

K

Zitat von Karina

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I decided to take it out because of possible allegations of advocating child porn. [...]

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To explain:
If you've followed the relevant forums, this was in fact an accusation to "Jamminwolf" when he published "Sabrina Blinker", "Tindra Thompson" and all his other preteen characters:
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vendor/jamminwolf
I didn't want to have any similar allegations in my portfolio.

So if you ever see a SASHA preteen character or morphs out there - IT WASN'T ME!

Returning to the weight map issue:

Yesterday I finished renaming the last remaining "weightMap 12345678_xx" issues (and also removed some other inconsistencies in naming conventions). But as I said in a previous post this is rather an internal thing meant to facilitate the maintenance of the figure for me.

What I want to talk about today started as a minor problem in the neck area, and it turned out to be a major one once I tried to fix it.

For short:

This is how it looked with neck bent back -30 and head -40:
(right side view of neck area: nape = left, throat = right)


This is how it was supposed to look!


It was some kind of FUBAR (Google that) because whatever I tried I couldn't edit that bloody weight map!!1!
until I found out that the "chest" actor in the "affected actors" list was the culprit.

After removing it from the "affected actors" list, saving the file, and then reloading it, I could edit the weight map with no problems!?!


OK, and now let's talk about other, lesser mysterious mysteries (like, how was the universe made, why do single socks disappear in the laundry machine, etc.)

K

Thank you very much!

It's another corrupted weight /bulge map.
I'm at it already.
Though a fix morph could be a stop-gap, it's no permanent solution because the corrupted weight maps would be copied into clothing too, there causing more unforeseeable problems.
Fortunately this is only one weight and one bulge map.

K

UPDATE:

The chest problem is gone (see picture with a bend of +50)
There are some slight crumplings left if you bend the chest more (to +60), but then there's V4's mesh which isn't suited well in that area because of the rhomboid deltas and varying mesh density, so I had to compromise.

However, with less extreme poses it works well again:


The problem with the duplicating dial groups will be fixed as well, I'm currently at it.

K

The "Collapse groups" problem is fixed too now.

I rearranged the groups once again, so the "KV SHAPE" group of dials will now be listed in the BODY's ">>> BODY SHAPE" group (as it's called from now on for more clarity)
While I was at it I also moved the ">>> SPECIAL SASHA CONTROLS" group, for the same reason.

What does that mean for the user?
Practically nothing at all except that the "KV SHAPE" group moved into the ">>> BODY SHAPE" group.
I think this is also a more logical arrangement than it was before.

The only problem left is that the user now has TWO "COLLAPSE GROUPS" thumbnails in his library:
"395" is for pre-SR1 versions of SASHA, while "396" is for SR1.

I'm sorry for this clumsy solution, but I can't change that because if ever Poser encounters a "groupNode xyz" entry in a .pz2 file IN THE EXACT SAME GROUPING ORDER it creates a new group node, no matter whether it already exists elsewhere or not!

But once all your characters are SR1 based, you can delete the old "395" pose.

K

Lost with "Groupies" :D

It all started when I fixed the "Groups" duplication, and then I thought it might be a good idea to slightly rearrange the sorting order of some groups, and also make some minor name changes.

I should have known that this would start an avalanche of other files to be adapted to that new sorting order.
But now it's started, and there's no way back.
Be prepared for the next BETA version, and you can already delete ALL files from the last BETA versions because a lot will be replaced or become obsolete.

Never change a running system...

K


The good news is that the new weight maps have been fixed and tested, and I also fixed a dependent morph which acted weird. *1)


FOOTNOTE *1):
It was a double dependency which was a typo in the .pz2:
The first dependency pointed to the correct "chest:1"
The second pointed to the chest without the :incriminator: only "chest"
As so often, the devil is in the detail...